Supernatural

jackydragon

jackydragon

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On a different forum miracles or supernatural was being discussed in relation to the bible accounts. It bought to mind these thoughts.

There are cultures who have communed and respected the whole of life that pulses just as their heart beat does. Interweaving and interconnecting to the whole of life is therefore natural and they might find losing that connection a very supernatural event because this is all they know. The same could be said for those who are not aware of the connection they have with all things. If all of a sudden the connection became apparent it would appear to be supernatural to them. So what is supernatural?

I realize everyone's definition will differ. And am open to hearing your definitions or thoughts on the supernatural.
 
Speaking for myself, I am not really interested in trying to prove or disprove miraculous accounts. The idea of the miraculous or supernatural is that the laws of nature are not followed. Accordingly, these events cannot be examined using the laws of nature.

It's not a matter of proving or disproving. It's a matter of believing or not believing.
 
Nor am I interested in proving or disproving. A lot of what was deemed as miraculous historically is now being deemed by science as a natural event. At least some of them. My main point was whether or not there is such a thing as supernatural? Is it the belief alone that makes something supernatural as you say or is it the label we give it.
 
Most definitions of supernatural say that it is outside the understanding or explanation of the natural world, which is what can also be said of miracles. This is why the supernatural and the religious often go hand in hand, though they may make uneasy bedfellows. Of course, advances in technology have provided logical explanations for events that may have previously been described as 'supernatural.'

I think, as Janus says, it is a question of belief as much as anything. There is obviously a lot that goes on that is outside our normal experience, but something a human being may term 'supernatural' may be another life form's normal occurrence. Personally, I have an open mind on this. I have seen things that defied logical explanation, and while I believe in them, I am loath to call them supernatural. I prefer to call them 'events outside my experience.'
 
This thread made me think a bit. I had never equated the idea of miracles with the idea of the supernatural. Like defiler said, I think of ghosts, unexplained happenings. I guess that's why I feel like miracles don't fit in this category. Because believe in them or not, they are "explained" in a religious manner.
 
Miracles to me are natural depending on my expectations and beliefs. When I am believing my creator can do all things I also await those actions which are expected to occur. Supernatural to me can be the Holy Ghost or the Spirit of the Lord since that is beyond the usual which is mortal beings.
 
That is a really interesting point. Like I said earlier this thread is making me think :). I was in no way trying to demean any religious beliefs at all, I was just making the point that there are many different belief systems and not everyone accepts religious explanations for things. I guess I've just never put the thought into where I feel the supernatural is derived from, sometimes I'm not even sure if I believe in a lot of the things I would classify as supernatural.
 
Supernatural in our culture would mean a bunch of beliefs not back up by science. It's about witchcraft, vampire and scary things you see in movies. If am going to look into what happened in the Bible I might say that it's possible that supernatural things might exist.
 
I believe that we are not only living in this natural world. We are also living in a supernatural world. We can read of angels and demons in the Bible. God also works in a super natural ways. Jesus walks on the water, turns the water into wine, and heal all kinds of sicknesses and diseases.
 
I don't really believe that supernatural exist, maybe because I still don't experience it and I don't want to. But I also believe that supernatural feelings is just made by our creative minds, we made by our minds through stories or movies. Imagine a ghost and look what it looks like, it looks like the ghost from the last movie you watch right? That's the reason why I believe that it is just made by our minds. Whenever you felt like there is a ghost always think that it is just your imagination. Without watching movies or hearing stories about supernatural things it wont exist in our minds.
 
It can be proved.

Science have always tried to give a natural account of how everything came to be, and have done so unsuccessfully. They are usually faced with the big question of an initial cause. If the big bang was the beginning of life, what caused the big bang?

The cage science found itself in was placed on it by its own laws, the laws of nature. An example is the law of thermodynamics, which states that for every effect there is a cause.

And this has driven science into many attempts to provide an answer. Think of string theory, think of the multiverse theory and the likes.

But the whole problem exist for them because they have failed to include any thing outside the natural in their equation of trying to solve this riddle of how we can to be.

If God is put in the picture, things balances out.

And putting God in the picture proves the existence of the supernatural.
 
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